Randoms

[susandennis]

I am a carnivore. Dedicated, card carrying, life long member of the club. There are many many many vegetables I dislike but even more that are too much trouble. I don't mind a good salad but if I have to chop and mix and decide, it ain't happening.

But you know those pre-selected salads in plastic containers (with a fork) that are all the rage in grocery stores these days? They turn out to be my cup of tea!! I love them. They have exactly the right amount of each delightful ingredient and just the right amount of dressing. And they are everywhere. I've gotten so I keep at least one in the fridge always. They are perfect for lazy asses like me.

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I do not think suicide always has to be a tragic occurrence. It's my life and if I want to end it, it should be my right and my decision should be respected as one made with thoughtfulness. I think assuming one who commits suicide 'could have been saved' is about as insulting as you can get.

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This is my baby brother (four years younger) with his two on-the-road techs. My brother is on the left. Bryant is in the middle. He does mostly home house calls and Thomas (on the left) does most small business.  The shop is in Georgetown, TX which is just north of Austin.

Comments

[lord-cellytron.livejournal.com]

When it comes to *me*, I totally agree with you about suicide. Definitely, especially if I've gotten all my affairs in order and it's obvious this was coming for a long time. People need to leave me alone and let me make my own choice. (Not that I'm planning anything right now...)

But the flip side of that coin... well, I knew a guy online for 10 years. We were just barely friends, but he committed suicide and it really messed me up. He admitted to having a plan (he was going to wait until age 60, but did it at age 37 I think?), bought a gun, and he would absolutely not have wanted anyone to stop him. It was well-considered and he felt it was the best thing for him. The only loose end was his cat, who was quickly adopted by his neighbor.

So I have to respect that, but at the same time I'd give just about anything for him to have been saved somehow. Because the world is much, much shittier without him. He had no way of knowing/seeing that, of course.

[susandennis]

I hear you and appreciate your thoughtful and respectful vantage point. It's those who jump on the tragedy band wagon with no independent thinking or regard for a possible different point of view that really make me burn.

[lord-cellytron.livejournal.com]

Oh, absolutely. People who have never been in a dark place or up against a wall, or who have never really honestly genuinely *thought* about their potential future or lack thereof, those people make me see red. "But whyyyyy would you ever want to dooooo that?!?" There are plenty of reasons.

Speaking of red, Reddit seems to really love that story about the guy who jumped off the bridge and realized at that moment that all of his problems were fixable, except the fact that he just jumped off the bridge. Which is a fine story and everything, but it most definitely doesn't apply to every situation. How about people whose problems are NOT fixable? It's incomprehensible to a lot of people that maybe some people don't immediately regret taking whatever action they took.

And then there's the whole religion thing which I won't even get into. ("Do you want to burn in hell forever?!")

[susandennis]

yup

[hawk-soaring.livejournal.com]

I love salads... and I love it even more when someone else does all the chopping. :)

[roasted-beets.livejournal.com]

I love making the salad just as much as eating it.

On suicide

[mckavian.livejournal.com]

http://i.imgur.com/C9zuXw2.jpg

Re: On suicide

[susandennis]

Wow. YES!!! Thank you.

Re: On suicide

[mckavian.livejournal.com]

There is a reason I keep this link.

I am going to be one of these people one of these days. I damn well do not need some overly cheerful 'it will always get better' types with no clue what I'm going through telling me that *I* am the selfish one.

Re: On suicide

[susandennis]

You know what is best for you. No one else knows better. You should have every option available.

And also being sad (or equivalent) isn't the only reason for suicide. I can absolutely see being old and tired of life and/or facing medical issues that just aren't the ways I want to life with. I want to be 'saved' from neither :)

Re: On suicide

[mckavian.livejournal.com]

Having been clinically depressed 37 of my 45 years, no, it does not get better. Just trying to be happy does not work. I have several incurable medical conditions that I am tired of dealing with. I don't have anyone who would really miss me if I leave. I have several who say they will, but I go days, weeks, months between talking with them. They would never notice me gone unless someone tells them. *shrugs* The main reason I haven't/don't, my cats.

Re: On suicide

[susandennis]

i get it

Re: On suicide

[mckavian.livejournal.com]

I know you do. That one of the things I appreciate about you.

Mind you, this all said, I am not sitting here with a gun in my lap. I'm going to work, taking my meds, being social with neighbors, etc. But When I decide it's my time, I do not need to be getting shit for it.

Re: On suicide

[susandennis]

Send those shit givers to me. I'll 'splain.

Re: On suicide

[mckavian.livejournal.com]

Most of them, I no longer talk to.

There is nothing to worry about. Well, no one to worry about.

[notdefined.livejournal.com]

They actually get in that shoe with wheels? It can't be comfortable.

[badrobot68.livejournal.com]

I only think suicide is selfish when someone leaves behind young children or people who depend on them...but even then, we can't possibly know what sort of pain they're in.

[tau.livejournal.com]

I agree with you about suicide. I think that most people who commit suicide are truly suffering, and have been suffering for years. To demand that it will 'get better' lacks empathy. For some people, it never gets better.

I say this as someone who has chronic depression, who attempted as a teen, and is doing *better*. I will never attempt again, but I can understand why people do.

eta - and I wish we lived in a society that allowed people to say goodbye before they killed themselves. It is so hard to leave without reaching out to loved ones.

[susandennis]

YES! acceptance of life choices would make it so much easier to leave with grace, dignity.

[kk1raven.livejournal.com]

I think that there are good reasons for suicide and bad reasons but either way, if your responsibilities have been met, it should be your choice. I do think it is somewhat tragic when someone who should have been able to get help doesn't get it and consequently kills themselves.